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Re: Hayley Dodd missing case

Postby Sir Laughs-A-Lot » Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:56 am

Hi mate,

During the 3 hours talk with Margaret last week, she mentioned that, over the now 11 years, she has had so many contacts from various psychics, some have even sent her maps etc saying "Hayley's body is located here", and then she has spent time & $ going there and searching and finding nothing that, the experience has dashed her hopes 100 times.

Her husband gets, (or still is) totally depressed to the point, he is so ill he cannot work.

Over the 11 years Margaret confided in me that she has spent $70,000 on credit cards, paying psychics on line and driving to Badgingarra & back to search for Hayley. They are honestly struggling to make ends meet Margaret works to keep things afloat. To top it off the Tax office can't figure how her hubby makes so little per year, so now are auditing them coz they can't account for how they survive so suspect them of not declaring "non existent income".

Because of her hubby's situation - we do not make our communications known so as NOT to make him more depressed.

They have to contend with that, + trying to prepare for a upcoming coroners hearing - and no one from govt or anything is giving them any assistance, in way of a solicitor or anything to prepare the questions they want to get answered by the coroner. Margaret is a good verbal communicator, (who speaks with much emotion as you could imagine). However Margaret is not the greatest typist on a laptop - so finds emails etc very hard - I seldom ever get more than two or 3 lines at best from her.

I think she is hoping the police will follow this new info and solve the case. (As do we all) so she may well be just adopting a wait n see attitude, as far as following up 'yet another psychic' (from her viewpoint).

Take the example with Chanty that got me involved - I asked if there was anything Margaret wanted "followed up" that she hadn't had the time or $ or ability without upsetting her hubby - that I could do for her.

She gave me the chanty reading from 2007 - in 2010, that's how long she had sat on it.

The fact we acted on that and the TV show went to air is why the new evidence with the two new witnesses came to light!

Maybe if it had been followed up 3 years ago - maybe the case would have been solved by now?.

Marymary is 100% right - about so many people having fed Margaret so much BS over the years.

I am trying to do this - to take that pressure off Margaret, but as you can imagine marymary, naturally enough wants to talk with Margaret or police. Margarets had it with the police -they botched this case from the start (no plane for a search at the time because it was being used to find Robert Beguki - the yank who wandered off in the desert for a religious experience!).

I could answer these questions for mary mary, I could provide the photos that she needs etc. She seems to be worried about someone here - and I suspect maybe she is worried about me? I don't know why, All I am trying to do is help - not trying to "get in on the act".

I've spent considerable time with Margaret & Hayley's sister Toni, up at Badgingarra searching and down in Pinjarra recently as last week getting background info.

I don't want to try and inject myself between marymary and Margret or between marymary and yourself if she feels that y motives aren't pure or selfless.

It's just frutrating for me is all - maybe that's what marymary is picking up on - who knows.

When I saw Margaret last week i gave her the timeline I had prepared from google earth al printed out in color and on cardboard backing rolled up with a dossier of notes trying to summarize what we believed MAY have become of Hayley based on all that we know.

She then sent me a copy of the email from WAPOL about their interviews with the 2 new witnesses which was not encouraging.

I then wrote a 5 or so page word doc as a "suggested reply" for her that if she wants too - she can copy paste into a reply email to WAPOL hopefully getting them to connect the same dots we have.

These are all things I try to do to hopefully take some of the pressure off Margaret, make her life hopefully just a little bit easier.

If Margaret doesn't contact mary mary - then I would be happy to do so on her behalf, if mary mary has no objection to that.

I am trying to use my past experience in law enforcement, to do thsi research on Margarets behalf so that she doesn't have too - the LAST thing I want is for Margaret to be the one to physically find her child's remains. I am prepared to take on that obligation on her behalf and hopefully get the police to bring her child home to the family, so that they can find closure.

Maybe if marymary understands this, hopefully she might be OK to work with you and I Chris, in order to shield Margaret from any more of this - because it's an unpleasant enough task for anyone let alone the mother of the child.

Maybe marymary will pick up on this intuitively - I don't know. Maybe you can try to explain it to her?

At the end of the day, I can't force Margaret to respond to marymary - nor can I force marymary to communicate with me so - essentially my hands are tied unless - god willing, something changes.

If marymary could maybe think of me as a "researcher" (can't legally say investigator or PI in our state) engaged by Margaret to do this work pro bono for her - maybe that would change marymarys attitude to working with me rather than Margaret herself?

She could email Margaret and ask her permission, to provide me with information, if she prefers?

I don't know what else we can do.

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Re: Hayley Dodd missing case

Postby Chris Roubis » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:59 am

I'm sure mary will work it all out in her own time.

She did say she is not letting this case go.... she does want to help.

She also has alot of things going on in her life as well, so all we can do right now is give her time to get back to us when she can do so.

She can also help us with other cases.
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Postby Sir Laughs-A-Lot » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:14 am

She can also help us with other cases.
Yes - that could be very helpful.
I tend to forget others have lives of their own to lead as well Chris - your right we (I) just have to be patient.

I did get started on the next case while waiting...I'll post in there the details.

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Re: Hayley Dodd missing case

Postby Chris Roubis » Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:43 pm

Good News!! :-bd

Margaret replied back to mary and wants to work with her one on one. (*)
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Re: Hayley Dodd missing case

Postby Sir Laughs-A-Lot » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:15 pm

Great!
That IS good news. :ymapplause:
I guess in due course hopefully we hear something if there's any solid clues for searching..

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Re: Hayley Dodd missing case

Postby Chris Roubis » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:04 pm

Just finished chatting to Margaret on facebook live chat applet.

Margaret is such a sweet heart, she was even worried about how i felt, letting Mary in on the case.

I told her, i asked for marys help in the first place. So I am fine with it. I want this solved for Margaret and for Hayley.
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Re: Hayley Dodd missing case

Postby Sir Laughs-A-Lot » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:26 pm

A genuinely very nice lady - I couldn't imagine going, thru what she and her family have suffered thru, for 11 years now.

She IS very understanding in that she does recognize that people genuinely want to help - when they contact her and each tries to do it in their own way - sometimes not even realizing that the attempt might be painful for her or the family.

She certainly has toughened up as a result of this whole ongoing process.

That said - she's also an emotional lady, whose pain shows thru sometimes no matter how hard she try's to stay on top of it.

There's nothing I would like more than to bring an end to this for them as a family.

We've had crap weather for more than a week now - I want to get back up there for a search - tired a being cramped up in this house, I need to get out, so hopefully she & mary mary will come up with something.

One thing - will Margaret save a copy of hers & marymarys conversation so we can mine it for clues after the fact - it's so easy to 'forget minor details' along the way sometimes. (Or can mary save a copy for you?).

Thanks for the effort you've put i Chris - much appreciated.

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Postby Chris Roubis » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:04 pm

I'll remind her to copy the chat.
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Postby Sir Laughs-A-Lot » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:36 pm

Cool - thanks. #:-s

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Re: Hayley Dodd missing case

Postby Chris Roubis » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:59 am

SLAL

Talked to Mary again.

She wants to chat to you SLAL .... hope you can download paltalk so we can chat.
http://www.paltalk.com/download_auto.shtml

She wants to chat to Margaret also through paltalk, and maybe also chat with the retired detective with the bad ticker or chest probs.

SLAL can you supply me with a better picture of Brad Hammond and his father who also is involved with this somehow. She heard spirit say "owner, owner"

There is also a bar in the area that he bragged it to.

After the chat, Mary may ask you to take photos of the area for her....
She says she sees the body of Hayley on the ground, but cannot work out the area...
She has seen Hayley in Spirit. She is very weak. Called Mom a few times.

She was describing the dark italian features of this person, and when i showed her the pics of the 3 amigos, she felt it was brad that was involved.

She also mentioned all these 3 are also involved in petty crime and robbery.
Wombat has some link to Sydney, she didnt say anymore.


Mary is usually online around midnight Sydney time. Hope you can keep awake.
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Re: Hayley Dodd missing case

Postby Sir Laughs-A-Lot » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:40 pm

Hi Chris,

I've just downloaded paltalk, but haven't yet worked out how to use it.

Do I need like a microphone and vid camera attached to my PC, or do i just type like a online chat room to talk with you and marymary?

I signed up as SLALOT - maybe you & mary mary can invite me into your chat session?.

Midnight your time is easy for me coz we are 2 hours ahead here in Perth (GMT +8, Perth Singapore Chinese Taipai Time) so whats a midnight chat for you will be 10PM for me?... (I think).

I can take photos on site for MM no worries if I know what she is looking for.

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maybe also chat with the retired detective with the bad ticker or chest probs
I'm assuming this might be private detective Mick Buckley, who did a re - enactment of Hayley's walk with Margaret...back in about Yr 2006 or 2008 maybe. I'm guessing here that he's the one - unless there was a police man involved questioning suspects back in 1999 who's since retired that has a bad ticker? (We would need Margaret to advise in that respect).

I will see what I can get in the way of more photo's of Brad, I don't have anything of Keith Hammond in the way of a Photo maybe Margaret has?

The only bar in the area that I know of is the Badgingarra one, but Moora is actually closer to the farm by road than Badgingarra is.
She was describing the dark italian features of this person, and when i showed her the pics of the 3 amigos, she felt it was brad that was involved.
That's odd because when I look at the 3 Amigos pics I felt that Jamie fella looked like he had Italian or Eastern European bloodlines - his big square set jaw sort of looks like he may have relatives from there somewhere in his background maybe.

I'll get you another pic of Brad in a moment or two.

Not sure what Wombats link with Sydney is except that I suspect it MAY be the source of supply of the date rape drug GHB which he allegedly used on Danell 6 weeks prior.

There's something about that photo of Brad, maybe its just me - I don't know, but I REALLY think - that HE (Brad) LOOKS a heck of a LOT like the picture of the guy on the CC TV Video that the police released of one of the guys seen speaking to one of the Claremont SK girls that police released on the TV recently after all these years.

Brad doesn't always live on the Farm with his dad I don't think - he was schooled and lived with his estranged mum down Mandurah way, so he could well have partied on the nightclub scene at Claremont hotel, and the guy on the vid has a haircut, just like Brads, IMHO. I just get a strong gut feeling about that. (But I could be wrong on that aspect).

Hammond Senior's alibi was that he was in another town at a shire meeting, which I'm sure police confirmed, putting him out of the picture EXCEPT that, I think he KNOWS that his son Brad was involved somehow, and has been covering for him ever since - by NOT telling the Police at the time about the incident with Wombat & Danelle 6 weeks prior to Hayley's visit & directing them to search other neighbors farms closer to town suggesting that he suspected THEY were the likely culprits i.e directing police AWAY from his farm and son..

I suggest his 'involvement' might well be, that he's been providing disinformation for 11 years.

I'll try for another photo of Brad.

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Postby Sir Laughs-A-Lot » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:25 pm

Mate this is the link to Brads facebook page - he has a new photo up.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Brad-Hammond/1615897276

I tried copying the photo etc but it is only 20mb in size and seems to shrink to a size that it unrecognizable when I try and save then upload it to my photo-bucket account, so marymary will have to view it on his facebook link would be best I think.

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Postby Chris Roubis » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:09 pm

I added you as a friend on paltalk. I see you online, just messaged you.
My username is GraFix
if you have a mic it would be good to hear you talk, or you can just type text.
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Postby Sir Laughs-A-Lot » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:57 pm

Hi Mate,

Sorry about that I was logged in but had my screen turned off and went for a walk outside in the brief spell of sun we just had! (I needed to get out!).

I'm back on now.

I'll reply to you - I would need one of my kids to connect a camera and or microphone thing - they will have them but aren't home at the moment so tonight might just be me typing sorry.

Thanks for arranging this - I do appreciate it a lot.

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Postby Chris Roubis » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:09 pm

SLAL

Paltalk is a great medium where we can connect with people from all over the world...
Lots of rooms for your fancy also.

I usually hang in the Religious & Spirituality Category.... in the Metaphysical rooms.

Great to touch base with you in Paltalk SLAL, we just have to wait for mary to come online..
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Postby Sir Laughs-A-Lot » Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:17 am

Just spoken with her - wonderful - sending pics of farm that she asked for now.

Paltalk - fantastic I'll try n get a microphone.

More soon.

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Postby Chris Roubis » Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:40 am

great m8.

get yourself a cheap mic from big W.
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Postby Sir Laughs-A-Lot » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:44 am

Kids have a spare just got to get them to hook it up for me!

Heres pic of Seldom Seen farm & outbuildings.

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Postby Chris Roubis » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:21 am

Are they all the buildings on the property SLAL?

i think those 3 little things side by side maybe caravans?
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Postby Sir Laughs-A-Lot » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:20 am

Yes that is all the buildings on the property.

No - those 3 round things are grain storage silo's.

I'd say the caravans are either gone or in one of the big green sheds maybe?.

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Postby Sir Laughs-A-Lot » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:56 pm

Margaret got back to me, about the photo we wanted of Keith.
He doesn't have a facebook account and she doesn't have a photo of him.

There's fine weather coming this week - if I can get something maybe from mary to zero in on I'd like to go take another look up there and if possible to that timed / measured walk.

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Postby Chris Roubis » Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:51 am

I saw mary online... but very late.

Hope you had a chat before you went to bed.
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Postby Sir Laughs-A-Lot » Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:43 pm

No mate,

She emailed me - to say shes under a lot of stress in her private life ATM and hasn't had any quality quiet time to devote to the issue. I sent her Margaret's comments about requiring something that ONLY she and Hayley knew (i.e. that isn't available publicly on the net) before Margaret would get interested and communicate with her.

Margaret's failure to parley with mary seems to be some kind of block to her - and that could well be how those things work but its unlikely we will alter her beliefs system.

It's a shame Chris but I've learned not to push things in areas that don't happen easily - it just blocks further progress often...as no doubt you know all too well.

Here's something for you - last night just as I was drifting off too sleep....I found myself visualizing a specific "vehicle" that in the dream I "seemed" to recognise.

It was a 'green' (mid range green) 1975 Ford XB Panel van, I saw it clearly from the front.

Many years ago i owned a sky blue 1975 xb ford station wagon, and it WASN'T my car, it definitely was green and a panel van.

I woke straight after this dream thinking to myself - "what the hell are you doing, dreaming about a vehicle you've never seen or owned?'...quite confused - & then it hit me like a brick & I felt like an idiot.!
I think it is related in some way to this Hayley Dodd case!.

Reportedly, on the police time line, there WAS mention some kind of green vehicle that overtook at high speed, one of the last vehicles to have spotted Hayley, walking along the side of the road. I think it was the vehicle i dreamed about, my dream was so clear i could see the front grill and recognized it as an XB (not an XC from 1976 for example) I knew the difference in my dream, and in real life coz I once owned an XB as stated.

This got me to wondering...

Anyone driving an XB in 1999 - (when it was made in 1975) is driving a bloody old car! 24 years old in fact.

Typically such a vehicle MIGHT be bought cheap for a few hundred dollars and driven by a kid of 17/18 whos just got his drivers license, and wants a shaggin waggon! That's sure what they were used for, when I was a lad of that age!.

So - now I am wondering.....

One of our "scenarios" - the one possibly most likely involving Stephen, requires that he and or Jamie comes home at around lunch time to the farm to find Hayley either walking along the road or just arriving at the farm.

So, now I am wondering if, one of those lads owned such a vehicle at that time?.

I am thinking that the young girl Danelle, who worked at the farm as a housekeeper briefly and was allegedly assaulted by Stephen would possibly know what sort of vehicle, the lads all owned / drove (or at least recognize a photo of one similar)?

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This color & year model.

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This Panel van body style.

Anyway - that aside,

Margarets emailed saying that WAPOL have left a message for her to phone them...so who knows they may have more news of some kind.

Hopefully we will hear about it in due course.

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Postby Hailsangel » Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:15 pm

Ok how do i get to read all the post by mary etc

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Postby Chris Roubis » Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:33 pm

Hi Margaret

glad to see you in here..

Mary has not posted in here as yet Margaret.. she does not want to read anything in here so she does not get tainted in anyway by so many theories and ideas floating around.

Shann and I communicate with her through www.paltalk.com because Mary refuses to see the forums at the moment.
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Re: Hayley Dodd missing case

Postby Hailsangel » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:33 am

On reading the past post since may 2010 i think all these post need deleating there is so much wrong information where people have become confused or missunderstood the information given too them that it could miss lead others. O'connell is not a school teacher he is a farm worker and i do not think posting photo's of people who may nothing to do with Hayley's case is a good idea. Untill we have something more concreate we should restain from naming people.

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Postby Chris Roubis » Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:49 pm

Hi Margaret

I understand your concern. This is why this forum is private.... no one but us can view it. We can name and shame and share theories and photos between ourselves in private without the legalities.
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